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Just a thought, or perhaps a HOPE would be a better way to say it.... I wonder if the fig under the armour will have an armoured torso of some sort? At the very least something useful, so that the armour can be used on other figs (HP or ? ) and the colours can be mixed & matched, giving contrast to those desirous to build up armies. The reason i wonder this is that historically the figs with european armour always had a print on the torso underneath (at least all that I have ever bought). I hope the scorpion soldiers do not have red eyes as depicted on the Galiknights website.
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We will have to wait and see. I for one will hold any and all comments about the new sets untill I actualy hold them. But I would have to agree with you, we can always hope.

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What I fear is that the red armour is actually dark red. I like the idea of some red armour but I'm not thrilled with the idea of having translucent dark red. :(
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ooohhhh.. Dark Red. My Greeks will have new armor then if they're Dark Red. It goes great with the cavalry's Gryffindor shields.
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Lets hope it isn't dark red, translucence is definitly a problem for me, I can deal with jelly bean colors, but when I can see torso printing under the armor, that is where I will draw the line. If they manage to make the armor not a translucent as some of the other dark red parts I have, I don't mind it as a color. I'd still rather see old dark gray or old light gray for all the new armor, but it is very unlikely we will see that this year. There is always hope, Toyfair is just a few weeks away. I can't say I'm a fan of ancient armies either, they just don't say "Castle" to me. But to each his own.

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Red Armor = THE PASS OF THERMOPYLÆ

That would rock so hard!

and in case you were wondering what the heck that is:
http://digital.library.upenn.edu/women/ ... /pass.html

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What I fear is that the red armour is actually dark red. I like the idea of some red armour but I'm not thrilled with the idea of having translucent dark red.
TRANSLUCENT???? how did I miss this? When was the last time you saw a picture of a Knight with see-throu armor?

Uh-oh, I am starting to dispair!!

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Anyone who has a few sets with dark red in say a plate or something else on the thinner side would notice that when placed on something of lighter color, the dark red has a slight translucence. In something like armor, the leg guards and the upper portion of the armor would also have this tendency if it was produced in dark red. The Jedi Starfighter is a prime example of a set with dark red parts showing more translucence than we see in other colors. We can hope TLC will use regular red or that they will adjust their dark red mixture to prevent this translucence in future sets.

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Dark Red looks good on certain figs. My Mycenaen Hoplite/Panolpy looks good with dark red.

BTW, have you seen ancient Greek Fortifications, Egyptian Migdols, Babylonian Fortresses? In size and ornateness, a lot of them will put most medieval castles to shame.

Here is a small "reproduction" of Bab Ishtar (Gate of Ishtar - a Babylonian goddess) in modern Iraq.
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LEGOFREAK wrote:Red Armor = THE PASS OF THERMOPYLÆ

That would rock so hard!

and in case you were wondering what the heck that is:
http://digital.library.upenn.edu/women/ ... /pass.html

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Why in the world would red armor = the battle of Thermopylae? The Spartans wore red cloaks, not red armor.

In any case, the pictures look like standard Lego red, not dark red (which would be better) or transparent (which would be horrific).
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In any case, the pictures look like standard Lego red, not dark red (which would be better) or transparent (which would be horrific).
I agree, after looking at the large castle set again, I would have to say the red knight does look like standard red, as does his Galidorian counterpart.

With regard to the dark red translucence reffered to in other posts, this has to do with the regular dark red color, not trans-red. Regular dark red tends to be slightly translucent and that tendency is much more apparant in thinner parts such as plates and bars. Now this may have been a problem since remedied as the only two sets I have with dark red are the 7113 Tusken Raider Encounter and 7143 Jedi Starfighter. Both of these sets had dark red plates that are slightly translucent. The plates when placed on white or light gray and other light parts tend to be a bit see through. I believe there was some discussion of this on FBTB and Lugnet when the dark red color was new.

I never thought that the armor was transparent red, just thought I should clear that up. :D

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JPinoy wrote: BTW, have you seen ancient Greek Fortifications, Egyptian Migdols, Babylonian Fortresses? In size and ornateness, a lot of them will put most medieval castles to shame.
I have in fact seen many of these structures in various art history courses I have taken. It is really in the eye of the beholder when you look at castle structures, I tend to prefer the plain, less ornate fortifications of Western Europe to some of the more ornate buildings we see in some Eastern European and other ancient civilizations. When I am buying or building "castle" themed structures my preference is towards Western European castle and army styles.

I would love to see TLC expand into ancient civilizations, any ancient civilization with appropriate weapons and armor would be a welcome addition to the "system" line, but not perhaps to "Castle". Castle has been diluted enough with jelly bean colors and fantastical themes.

As to the color issue... well I'd only be truly happy with light gray, dark gray and black for armor choices anyway. And to be truly, truly happy, they would have to be in the old grays, so don't feel bad if I didn't like the dark red idea. I guess I am just picky about where I want to put my money. Neither one of us is wrong; we just have differing views about what new parts would be useful for our collections.

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TwoTonic Knight wrote:
LEGOFREAK wrote:Red Armor = THE PASS OF THERMOPYLÆ

That would rock so hard!

and in case you were wondering what the heck that is:
http://digital.library.upenn.edu/women/ ... /pass.html

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Why in the world would red armor = the battle of Thermopylae? The Spartans wore red cloaks, not red armor.

In any case, the pictures look like standard Lego red, not dark red (which would be better) or transparent (which would be horrific).
Sorry - I should have added "for me it would..." :lol:

Mostly because the red cloaks are only available as part of the emperors bodyguards, and while I could make my own (having made many a red sail using starch and fine material) I dont care that much about it..

What I meant was that for me having a group of red armored guys would be awesome, and using them to fill a "spartan-like" space in my made up world.
and I included the link in case anyone wanted to read up on the REAL spartans - not the made up ones I would create. :D
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Sorry if I stepped onto your historically accurate toes mr evil twin)

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I've been able to make a "Western European" style minifig such as the Royal Knights look like ancient Middle-Eastern style minifigs as the Tyreans (Phoenicians). Here is their king:

Hiram Sidom
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Though this could change from RK red to the JBK voilet color, but I though the Lion emblem would look good as mid-east. The KK1 figs already make up most of the Shinar (aka Babylon/Chaldea), while Crusaders make up the Hittites.

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Also don't think that only Euro castles would have the lt/dk gray and black bricks.
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The best example I can think of, of dark red showing it's transluscence is the dark red female hair piece. If you look at it from underneath you can really see spots that don't seem to have any colouring at all. Check it out.
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