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Alternate Model Review: Wolfpack Renegades

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 2:40 am
by architect
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Join the Classic Castle alternate model review discussion. Please post your opinions on the model play ability, piece selection, design, etc. Which models stand up to our catapult of critique and which ones crumble in shame!

This week’s set is 6038 Wolfpack Renegades.

Wolfpack Renegades was released in 1992 and has two alternate models. The first image features a corral and hand cart scene. This cart is similar to later sets including 1736 Wizard's Cart and 1463 Treasure Cart. A Wolfpack chariot is the second model. It is very similar to 1794 Dragon Master's Chariot which was released in 1994.

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Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 3:42 am
by ottoatm
I like this idea for alternative models...

The first model, with the horse stall, is my favorite. Although both have carts (which I am gagging on), the horse stall is a pretty unique little creation. Sure, a lot of us could make better stalls, but isn't it nice to see TLG doing it? Nice little set, you could make all sorts of little things with it.

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 7:11 am
by Sir Kohran
I like the second model best - the chariot is good, and we need more of them in Castle. Mind you, this is such a good set that I don't think it matters all that much...all the models will be good.

- Matt

BTW, this is the 666th Sets topic :twisted:

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 5:44 pm
by lil Jon
This is a pretty good wolfpack set in general. I like the first alternative model better.

Whatever happened to the days when you got a horse and wagon and it happened to have a saddle too?

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 6:38 pm
by wunztwice
Ah, the days when you really could make some very decent alternates from sets...

I like the horse stall idea becasue it is fairly unique, but both are alright. This set had alot of decent parts and it's always easier to come up with good alternates with a selection like this set has. So, not too shabby.

I like that you decided to start up the alternate reviews again too!

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 7:09 pm
by architect
wunztwice wrote:I like that you decided to start up the alternate reviews again too!
Thanks! I will probably make the alternates from most sets given away in the CCC IV. The nice thing about 6038 is the large amount of small plates which can be used for alternates. Other smaller sets do not have the best alternate models. Larger sets like the Yellow Castle have great alternates but take a long time to duplicate each model.

Ben

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 7:19 pm
by Norro
What always struck me about Lego alternate designs was the figures. They look good in the model and then somebody changes the legs/head gear just for the sake of change... why not leave the better looking figs with the all ready nice alternate design?

God Bless,

Nathan

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 7:35 pm
by Azaghal
Oh, I don't know, the one on the right in the horse stall/handcart model picture doesn't look too bad.

As for the models themselves, I quite like the look of all of them. The Wolfpack were never very numerous to begin with, so it's nice to see them with some versatility.

Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 12:22 am
by Spongey
I prefer the hand cart to the chariot, as the hand cart simply looks more like something that the Wolfpack would use, while the Royal Knights look more like chariot users.

Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 5:28 pm
by zac_schmitt
why not leave the better looking figs with the all ready nice alternate design?

maybe someone might like the "alternate" versions of the figs better? i don't see how it's a forgone conclusion that the figs in the original are better looking. besides, if they want to show all the different combinations, why stop at the figs?

Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 6:39 pm
by architect
zac_schmitt wrote: maybe someone might like the "alternate" versions of the figs better? i don't see how it's a forgone conclusion that the figs in the original are better looking. besides, if they want to show all the different combinations, why stop at the figs?
I think you are correct. LEGO is showing kids that various minifigs can be made and you do not have to stick to the instructions. Sometimes these new figs do not look as good, but they do add variety. Of course in the Wolfpack universe there aren't too many different figures. 50% of the population has an eyepatch ;)

Ben

Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 9:30 pm
by Norro
zac_schmitt wrote:why not leave the better looking figs with the all ready nice alternate design?

maybe someone might like the "alternate" versions of the figs better? i don't see how it's a forgone conclusion that the figs in the original are better looking. besides, if they want to show all the different combinations, why stop at the figs?
I understand why they do it... I just can't help but noting how ridiculous it gets in many old sets, obviously the policy was no fig remains unchanged, but sometimes the swopped round figs look very poor... Just an opinion...

God Bless,

Nathan

Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 10:37 pm
by kelderic
I would have to say I like the first one best. Mainly because a horse stall seems more civilian, which is what Lego lacks.
Norro wrote:I understand why they do it... I just can't help but noting how ridiculous it gets in many old sets, obviously the policy was no fig remains unchanged, but sometimes the swopped round figs look very poor... Just an opinion...
I agree. Many times they seemed to change figs just for change. However, sometimes the changes were good. It depends on the set.

Kelderic

Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 12:37 am
by supernova
I must say, although I never really liked wolfpacks and their lego sets, the alternative models seem pretty cool ideas, that can be adapted into a lego village/medieval life setting :)
so i actually like the alternative models better than 6038 itself

Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 3:57 pm
by Lord Nev
Aaaahararararararrrrr! We finally have the yellow bricks! The kingdom is ours!

Ooh! Nice army builder. Plenty of broadswords. I'd buy 6 of these for a raiding party.