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Postby melonkernel » Tue Jan 27, 2009 5:30 pm

Sir Nelson wrote:
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SavaTheAggie wrote:I'm not sure how it'd look, but if you inserted a brown 2x2 plate into the bottom (top?) of the barrel, you could attach a tap. Granted, it'll be a little backwards, but at least it'd be there.

It looks quite ok, but it keeps falling off all the time, so i left it out from the moc.


The new, red-brown half-barrel piece has a technic axle hole on the bottom, so your axle could be extended through the barrel, and connected to the 2x2 round plate... then covered with a tap. :)


i think so too
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Postby melonkernel » Tue Jan 27, 2009 8:21 pm

Sir Nelson wrote:
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SavaTheAggie wrote:I'm not sure how it'd look, but if you inserted a brown 2x2 plate into the bottom (top?) of the barrel, you could attach a tap. Granted, it'll be a little backwards, but at least it'd be there.

It looks quite ok, but it keeps falling off all the time, so i left it out from the moc.


The new, red-brown half-barrel piece has a technic axle hole on the bottom, so your axle could be extended through the barrel, and connected to the 2x2 round plate... then covered with a tap. :)


Well, i had to test it.
Here are some scenes with the new big-barrels.
Image Image Image Image Image

There is one problem. The new barrel halfs does also have a smaller ring (around the hole) so placing a smaller lid with bottom facing it will not make snug fit since both have these smaller rings and they will not get as close as you want them to get.
Also, to just fit the barrel halves you can just get one step longer bar, but in order to attatch a lid you need an even longer one, making it stick out at the back of the barrel. You can place the lids on both ends, then it will be a little better.

Anyway. You can check the pictures and decide which ones you like best. And of course build them both (if you happen to have both types) and compare the results.
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Postby greenglo » Fri Feb 06, 2009 7:45 am

My trick was placing old small cart wheels on a 1x4 Antenna. Then placing the tiles around the outside, held on by the elastics. As I said, very similar to yours. I am really liking your revision with the new piece! You could technically incorporate both ideas if you use the antenna rather than a technic axle. This would result in a longer barrel with a spout. :D

This is the antenna I am talking about:
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I will get around to making one of these when I grab that new piece after school is done in a few months. Feel free to use my method with yours. May your ale always flow and your tankard never empty!

Cheers!
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Postby melonkernel » Fri Feb 06, 2009 8:03 am

greenglo wrote:My trick was placing old small cart wheels on a 1x4 Antenna. Then placing the tiles around the outside, held on by the elastics. As I said, very similar to yours.

Cool, i must try that.

greenglo wrote:I am really liking your revision with the new piece! You could technically incorporate both ideas if you use the antenna rather than a technic axle. This would result in a longer barrel with a spout. :D

This is the antenna I am talking about:
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Thanks. Your idea with the antenna and the spout is ingenious. I think it would make a nice spout. In fact the best way to make a spout actually.
The problem i had when making the spout with the new barrels was that i needed a long enough axle, to make the round 2x2 plate not fall off. And that resulted in that the axle poked out on the back of the barrel.


greenglo wrote:I will get around to making one of these when I grab that new piece after school is done in a few months. Feel free to use my method with yours. May your ale always flow and your tankard never empty!

Cheers!

Thank you. And all the same to you my friend.



p.s.
If the barrels we make were barrels in real life, one could only drink half their content, since we always put the spouts in the center of the barrel ends. In reality the spouts would be at the bottom.
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Barrels...

Postby TooMuchCaffeine » Fri Feb 06, 2009 9:14 am

This technique might be useful for barrels:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/24681250@N07/3225680885/
Increasingly irritated by the way real-world work impinges on building time...
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Re: Barrels...

Postby melonkernel » Fri Feb 06, 2009 9:23 am

TooMuchCaffeine wrote:This technique might be useful for barrels:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/24681250@N07/3225680885/

Yes, that is true. How are the plates attached to the belts?
I think this technique can make really beautiful barrels. And with a round 4x4 as a "lid" one could put the spout/plug anywhere.
p.s. i really like your Sopwith Hurricane.


Also, when this thread is about barrels. We must mention the entrance to the secret barrel, and the barrel next to it.. Those are some large barrels.
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Postby Handar » Fri Feb 06, 2009 4:35 pm

Thank you so much for posting this. I'd been trying to figure out ways to do this myself, and came up completely stumped. The broken open barrels really helped to make it clear. The design is rather clever (far better than anything I devised on my own, which I suppose isn't saying much), and thanks for sharing it. Thanks also to the others who have also shared in this thread. It's exactly what I've been looking for. :)
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Postby greenglo » Wed Feb 18, 2009 6:55 am

Alright, I got a chance to update my barrels using the new barrel bottom piece. Here are some pics of what is going on under the tiles.

Imagehttp://www.flickr.com/photos/28926708@N03/3289994828/

Some of the colours are not my first choice but you get the drift!
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Postby melonkernel » Wed Feb 18, 2009 7:14 am

Very nice indeed.
I like your inner workings. I admit you were first with the round-2x2-at-both-ends-technique, you just made the whole thing longer as well. :) The tap and it's attachment are cleverly made. And they fit well together with the sexy back. ;)
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Postby greenglo » Wed Feb 18, 2009 11:29 pm

Be proud of your keg sir I could not have created this new one without you. Odd how this is now my favourite topic. For the betterment of kegs everywhere, greenglo out!
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Postby melonkernel » Thu Feb 19, 2009 6:50 am

I was in Rome last week, and of course all the photos i took was to capture future Lego architectual details. My coworker got to hear: "This will be an awesome lego creation" a lot.
Anyway, after we saw Pantheon we walked by a little restaurant with an outdoor terrace where people could eat.
And there was a...
BARREL!
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Edit: Moved the pic to flickr, Brickshelf kept loosing it.

It reminds me of your barrel a bit.
The tap is later added i can assume (doh!). But i think some barrels had the tap on the side. At least Tar barrels i think. (EDIT: if you images.google for tar barrels, all you will find is people carrying burning tar barrels on their shoulders...)
Anyway, since we need variation in tap location as well, this barrel could be created with your technique, but with one Image along with the other 1x2 smooth plates and a tap attached to that. Or even with the tap left out, and let the stud on the one modified 1x2 plate be the hole where you "plug" the barrel.

(p.s. for future mocs, i think i will use my flickr account. the medium sized thumbnails are better to put in posts than really tiny ones)
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Postby greenglo » Wed Mar 04, 2009 6:18 am

Very jealous of you going to Rome, went once when I was 16, would love to go again! The deeplink for brickshelf you posted isn't working for some reason?

In regards to your tap idea, it sounds great.

Just found this spacecraft by nnenn:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/nnenn/3318220018/
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The front of the ship would make a great keg!
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Postby melonkernel » Wed Mar 04, 2009 6:43 am

Somehow Brickshelf kept loopsing that picture. Perhaps it was moderated away or smth. I uploaded it twice. I now moved it to Flickr.


That spacecraft-barrel looks great. and BIG ;)
There are several elements on it that could be used for different types of barrels. Good find.
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Re: Someone is Drinking the Kings Wine (building large barrels)

Postby melonkernel » Mon Mar 09, 2009 8:06 am

In Subterraniaa shenanigans I Scream Stone uses a technique that could be used for yet another barrels version.
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Re: Someone is Drinking the Kings Wine (building large barrels)

Postby melonkernel » Mon Jun 22, 2009 12:38 pm

Look the the thing standing on the roof :)
(Thanks SirJacob for pointing this out to me)
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