LCC-Outlaws Official Faction Thread.

[Burlogh]

Good and evil, so outdated categories

Mhm. Would you be volunteering to be a bit of both? Or do you prefer to embrace your dark side more?

Human invaders pillaged my village and killed my people because I'm not human and I couldn't be the part of their kingdom. They think it was a glorious campaign while they purged evil monsters from their land. Who is the evil? History is written by the victors, but since I'm alive their victory isn't complete!

[Gavin of Lockwood]

I see the advantages to siding with the Queen, but as they say "good things come to those who wait."

I'll take my chances trying to redeem myself in the eyes of Prince Jarius.

[Aeridian]

I see the advantages to siding with the Queen, but as they say "good things come to those who wait."

I'll take my chances trying to redeem myself in the eyes of Prince Jarius.

It will probably take you quite a while for that happen. Outlaws, especially to Loreos, are enemies, ne'er-do-wells that will always fall short of their standards. And with you being somewhat of a magic user, more likely than not it will be harder for you to fit back in.

[SSchmidt]

Hey Josdu,

I am going to answer your questions here so AK does not get a headache every time he comes to check on the thread.
Realize, that everything I say is nothing personal against you or anyone.
Also I realize you are still an incredibly new player, so perhaps you just don't understand how the LCC works.

OK now that I have more time I'd like to defend my view point. For one thing I said that I realize that she could become a ruler of the outlaws but I pledge my loyalty to no Monarch!

You don't have to pledge your loyalty to her, but she is STILL your queen whether you like it or not. Galainir is royalty, is descended from the royal line, and is now in charge through some deceptive means. Either way, she is your queen. Garhims don't have to like the Jarl, but he is their leader. Lenfels don't have to like Triphian but he is their leader. You don't have to like Galainir, but she is your leader.

We want representation! Not taxation!

This doesn't even make sense, because representation is exactly what you are given with Galainir. Galainir represents ALL Outlaws. Now maybe your don't want taxation on the other three factions (who hate you, mind you), that's fine. Some Loreesi citizens did not want Jairus to invade Lenfald, but he did anyway.

I said quite clearly in my story that the queen intended to attack the outlaws Fortresses and the ship which Joshua and Gavin were escaping on I clearly stated was with the queen's soldiers headed for the swamplands.

It DOES NOT MATTER what you said in your story. The queen, as previously stated by the KC, (who run the LCC not you) is an Outlaw and wants all Outlaws on her side. She does not and will not invade the magical isles just because you say so. You do not control the queen, the KC does. So, with all due respect, nothing you say about Galainir matters.
What you need to do is go back and edit your story or remove it, because the queen is not villainous toward Outlaws even if you want her to be.

Since you commented I thought you had obviously read it, AK, and you did't mention the fact that the queen had stated that she was going to send her soldiers to the outlaws lands, so I thought it not necessary to ask about it.

Don't take this the wrong way, but AK has relatively little time to read anything you post. It's not that he doesn't want to, but AK is working on his Master's degree. As a TFOL, you have no concept of how difficult a Master's Degree and how much time it requires. Also, AK just finished participating in an online draft and more importantly, had a huge part in BrickCon (one of the largest LEGO conventions in the USA). I know I don't have to defend AK, but he hasn't had time to read your stories I am sure, in spite of whatever comments he may have made regarding your build. Trust me, if AK had seen what you said about Galainir, he would have noted.

But suppose you still which the queen not to invade than what is it you wish?

The KC will not tell you what it wishes because it's not your business. It will all play out what the queen's intentions are. The KC have clearly stated, after the GC voting, they will advance the story. Until that time, your questions will not be answered.

And as for Galainir being our "Rightful" ruler I think it is pure nonsense!

Once more, it doesn't matter what you think because she is still your ruler either way. You can try to go against the tide, but I imagine there will be repercussions for those who try to "alter" the story. The KC stated they would dock personal points to anyone who invaded the new castle of the queen. It is ok to not have all the answers and know everything right now. You just need to be patient.

She is just another outlaw trying to seize power using magic!

Um... that is what Outlaws do, right?

While she's at it, why doesn't she use magic and destroy the whole of Roawia?

She doesn't want to destroy Roawia, she wants to rule it. Also, magic is not as strong on the mainland. While Maldrake and Galainir were able to (possibly, not known for sure) convince the three leaders with some small amount of magic, I can guarantee that there is no magic strong enough on the mainland to just "destroy" Roawia.

I don't mean any of this in a mean way, but I am trying to help you so that you will understand we don't write the story, the KC does. We just play along. And if we don't want to play along because we don't like it, then we don't have to.
What you previously stated about Galainir does not matter and is not true at all. Once the players try to make up their own story about the leaders, problems happen.
I could state in my story that Prince Jairus had a nightmare and was abducted to Teddy Bear Island where evil robots were trying to enslave the Care Bears. You see what happens when we try to control the main characters? If everyone did that, it would be chaos. You are only in control of the characters you have invented in the LCC, nothing more. I hope this makes sense and helps you understand the LCC.

Respectfully submitted,
Silas

Faithful servant of Queen Galainir, the TRUE ruler of Roawia

[AK_Brickster]

The bottom line in all of this is that we all are supposed to be enjoying ourselves, so let's try to focus on the positives here.

Misunderstandings will happen from time to time, and I do try my best to read and comment on as many people's LCC contributions as possible. In fact, I'm quite sure that I did read Josdu's story, but I don't always have time to comment on everything, and I'm certainly not going to try to "correct" every little quibble I have with anyone's stories, so maybe I missed a chance to suggest a correction to the queen's intentions, but I didn't realize it was going to be a big issue at the time.

The LCC has a central storyline that is meant to give people some inspiration on what to build, and also to provide a framework for a central sense of community so that we can tie our stories together if we so choose. If you would like to use the central storyline, then you do so with the understanding that you are not allowed to alter it to suit your own needs / wants / desires. If you would prefer to tell your own story with minimal tie-in to the central plot, then that is fine as well.

Let's move on from this discussion and on to more positive subjects.

Be sure to get your votes for GCV in and support your favorite entries! I've only received votes from two outlaws thus far.

Thanks!

AKB

[Aeridian]

Thanks SSchmidt and AK for making your points clear and helping those of use who don't have a full understanding of how the LCC works. I try to stick to my character and leave the leaders/rulers to the KC, and play/write within those 'boundaries'.

I have a couple parts in the works, but I'm unsure whether or not I should post them before or after the GCV concludes... I'm kinda worried about exactly what you guys where talking about, I don't want to step one way and find out it was 'out-of-line' or something.

[josdu]

Don't worry I wasn't trying to argue and I don't want to know what is going to happen either what I meant when I said what do you wish I was referring to my story because I don't want to change it. Also AK I wasn't thinking it was such an important thing either. So, lets drop the subject and I'll veer my story. Anyway you guy's I still wan't to do the Convention of most outlaws so PM me if you don't wan't to be included or if I don't have you built and you do want to be included. Remember that I will be making your Character do things without asking you right away though if you wish me to change something important then I will.
BTW, here is an edit on your sigfig Bricknave, Lord of the Orks, and Burlogh:

[SSchmidt]

Hey Josdu,

We know you weren't trying to argue, I wasn't either
And if it seems that I was, please forgive me! There are lots of different ways we can get involved in the LCC, and we don't have to like or dislike the queen either way!

While I do support the queen, my closest Outlaw friends do not, so I must be willing to cross the divide and always work with my Outlaw brethren!

All for one, one for all, every man for himself!


EDIT***
Aeridian, if your story doesn't clash with the main LCC storyline, I would say you are A-OK in going through with it as AK has elaborated. There is a great deal of freedom in the LCC to do what you would like. I for one, look forward to your entries. Your stories are always superb, and you know your builds are good if you are a GC finalist!

[Aeridian]

EDIT***
Aeridian, if your story doesn't clash with the main LCC storyline, I would say you are A-OK in going through with it as AK has elaborated. There is a great deal of freedom in the LCC to do what you would like. I for one, look forward to your entries. Your stories are always superb, and you know your builds are good if you are a GC finalist!

Well, I'm not sure about that. I don't try to experiment or branch out with new techniques as much I as I'd like. I usually just try to get a decent build out with a good story attached. That, and I procrastinate a lot... so I can't promise it'll be tomorrow or anything.

[Reaver15]

Here is my first free build for October, I already posted it in the mocs page but it was recommended that I post it here too so here it is.http://www.flickr.com/photos/103121703@N05/10087225296/

[Aeridian]

Anyway you guy's I still wan't to do the Convention of most outlaws so PM me if you don't wan't to be included or if I don't have you built and you do want to be included. Remember that I will be making your Character do things without asking you right away though if you wish me to change something important then I will.

I don't know, I'm still not decided about attending or not. As for making my controlling my character, what do you have in mind? But if I was to be there I'd be reserved, on my guard and suspicious of my fellow Outlaw brethren, no offense.

[Gavin of Lockwood]

Sschmidt, I believe you are mislead in your trust in the queen. Once she seizes power, she will not keep her promises to help those who helped her. Read history. It happens all the time. I prefer to take my chances with Loreesi allies and good Outlaws, UNLIKE you.

[Rifiröfi]

Remember that I will be making your Character do things without asking you right away though if you wish me to change something important then I will.

Wolfgang will not attend the gathering. I have a plan of 5-6 consecutive MOCs for his storyline in Lenfald, so he can't just move to the Outlaws territory so easily. This should keep me busy 'til the end of the year. But this is not the main reason...

What I really don't like about your plan: you want to make our characters do something without asking us. These are our characters, you have yours. I am pretty sure all of us have a well-defined imgaination about what our characters would or would not do. I do not want to see Wolfgang doing something that is quite inconsistent with his/mine personality.

You really should coordinate with the other attendees. It is a great idea to do something with other builders, I have done it several times so far. But only with the others consent.

Cheers
Adam

[Aeridian]

Remember that I will be making your Character do things without asking you right away though if you wish me to change something important then I will.

What I really don't like about your plan: you want to make our characters do something without asking us. These are our characters, you have yours. I am pretty sure all of us have a well-defined imgaination about what our characters would or would not do. I do not want to see Wolfgang doing something that is quite inconsistent with his/mine personality.

You really should coordinate with the other attendees. It is a great idea to do something with other builders, I have done it several times so far. But only with the others consent.

Josdu,
After thinking about it, and seeing Rifirofis valid points, I'm leaning toward bowing out as well. I have several more builds coming for Aeridian, and I don't know where he'll end up yet. As for doing whatever you'd like with our/mine character(s) without letting us know before hand doesn't really appeal to me. But I'll let you know once I'm completely decided.

[Gavin of Lockwood]

Remember that I will be making your Character do things without asking you right away though if you wish me to change something important then I will.

What I really don't like about your plan: you want to make our characters do something without asking us. These are our characters, you have yours. I am pretty sure all of us have a well-defined imgaination about what our characters would or would not do. I do not want to see Wolfgang doing something that is quite inconsistent with his/mine personality.

You really should coordinate with the other attendees. It is a great idea to do something with other builders, I have done it several times so far. But only with the others consent.

Josdu,
After thinking about it, and seeing Rifirofis valid points, I'm leaning toward bowing out as well. I have several more builds coming for Aeridian, and I don't know where he'll end up yet. As for doing whatever you'd like with our/mine character(s) without letting us know before hand doesn't really appeal to me. But I'll let you know once I'm completely decided.

I'm with these fine fellows. I'd also like to do what I want with Gavin, and I'd rather have control over him. It's a good idea, though!