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6085 Black Monarch's Castle : alternative model

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 2:44 pm
by anotherParrot
It's an old idea I've had since I was 10 years old : How do you build the alternative model that appears on the cover of the Black Monarch's Castle instructions?
I tried several times and gave up along the way, because of certain proportions of the design.

Some time ago I came across [url=https://rebrickable.com/mocs/MOC-2830/recifa ... ch-castle/]this MOC[/url] (without realizing it was a MOC on the spot), which I thought was great. I wrote down the address and coming back to it later, it's great but... it's not the exact design, and that idea is still bothering me.

Now, since I have Stud.io, the original instructions in duplicate, a linen tester, I'm back at it seriously.
I think I almost succeeded, even if the design seems to me rather mediocre it seems accurate to what I observe on the photo and the parts in the inventory. The fact remains that I have no inspiration for the back and the interior. That's why I publish the result as it is. The fact is that the back probably has a large opening (based on the windows where you can see through).

If you have any ideas or modifications to suggest regarding the available parts.

I have collected the file and pictures here: http://lego.patatoide.com/Castle-6085-alt/

[img]http://lego.patatoide.com/Castle-6085-alt/6 ... 0.jpg?v=10[/img]

Re: 6085 Black Monarch's Castle : alternative model

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 1:33 am
by architect
Thank you for sharing this nice alternate model build! From my experience recreating alternate box builds, the back sides of the models could be quite messy at times.

I think the designers knew the models only needed to look good from one angle.

Re: 6085 Black Monarch's Castle : alternative model

Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2021 7:16 am
by anotherParrot
Thank you for this comment. This model is indeed very messy as soon as you switch the angle of view. This is what frustrated me as a child, because I convinced myself that I was doing it wrong.

Re: 6085 Black Monarch's Castle : alternative model

Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2021 11:40 pm
by Terry Tuffnuts
You've done a good job.
A lot of alternate models just look 'wrong' even if built accurate. This one look like its got some spirit

Re: 6085 Black Monarch's Castle : alternative model

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2021 1:00 am
by Elephant Knight
Now you just need to add on to it, and make it look better!

EKnight

Re: 6085 Black Monarch's Castle : alternative model

Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2021 8:37 am
by anotherParrot
Thank you for your feedback.
I agree about the next step, but I'm lacking inspiration regarding the remaining parts.

Here is a rear view. I just made sure to keep it clean and consistent with the original photo.
[img]http://lego.patatoide.com/Castle-6085-alt/6 ... k-mini.png[/img]
Full-size picture: [url]http://lego.patatoide.com/Castle-6085-alt/6 ... k-full.png[/url]

I consult the forum to find inspiration for its design. A weapons room, a stable, a warehouse...

Re: 6085 Black Monarch's Castle : alternative model

Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2021 7:13 am
by Terry Tuffnuts
Do a laundry, or a herbalists apothecary, too many conflict based themes, need some of the more mundane parts of medieval life to add depth