OverLoad wrote:England has my vote. Granted, there were some huge losses (ie the Hundred Years' War) but all in all England seemed to be on the up and up, continuing well into the Age of Exploration and beyond.
and unlike the spanish we didin't try to kill them.
They didn't have a king until 1815 eitherStormy Arthur wrote:the Dutch can't be a great kingdom, they had to drain the sea to even get any land
WvdP wrote:They didn't have a king until 1815 eitherStormy Arthur wrote:the Dutch can't be a great kingdom, they had to drain the sea to even get any land
Famous French proverb: God created the Earth except Holland, because that was created by the Dutchmen.
In fact it was only the western half of the Netherlands which had to be protected against the sea, the rest is above sea-level.
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